1st Gen R53 Cooper S MINI service manual for engine rebuild

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  1. 1r53

    1r53 New Member

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    Are ther any service manuals available that give information on engine rebuild specs, for bearing clearances, torque specs and sequence, cause the bentley manual doesnt give you jack, thanks.
     
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    There is none that I personally know of other than the BMW/MINI service tech's edition costing a few hundred dollars. And these are limited to authorized dealers at this time? However I am told that a couple people are working on a forum based engine info thread that may have the information you and others are looking for in the future?
     
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    Ok.. first.. get ARP Head studs for the Head..
    here is a few specs I have from Hynes.
    rod bolts: 15 ft lbs torque to yeild futher 90*
    cam bolt: 85 ft lbs
    eng lower stab bolts: 74 lbs
    eng lower stab to sump: 28lbs
    flywheel bolts: dual mass: 66 lbs
    int man bolts: 19 lbs
    main brg ladder bolts: (m10) 44 lbs
    (m8) 26 lbs
    try Haynes ..

    just me.............................

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  4. ColinGreene

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    Wrong on both accounts, mostly with mike and his torque numbers
    Bentley explains and covers all of these torque numbers and sequences
    what the op seems to be asking is for the clearances for the engines rotating assembly such as rod bearings main bearings and things of that nature
    a decent engine builder will have this or be able to find this information for you?
    Nitro is that ? supposed to mean 0?
     
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    #5 Nitrominis, Jan 27, 2011
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    ColinGreene sorry I am not sure what you are asking me? My responses were more specific to the engine bearing specification question that I may not have been clear enough about on my last post?

    It is not so much if you can acquire engine bearing specifications because there are general rules that can be followed to check them. Simplified explanation if not replacing any existing parts by measuring the rod and main bearing caps and the crankshaft journal o.d. along with the i.d. of the big end of the connecting rod you can determine the size bearing needed. Most factory and after market bearings have there manufactured size on them. Many production engines do not have the same size bearing on all the journals because of manufacturing tolerances. So it is really better to look for wear and replace with the same size bearing or have the crank reground and re size the big end of the connecting rods for a new bearing size. I.e. crank kit.
     
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    "torque specs and sequence, cause the bentley manual doesnt give you jack, thanks. "


    Well other than Being WRONG ( specs directly from the Haynes Manual). I didnt see where you answered the question either... wtf!! You must be WRONG as well!!

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    This is what the Haynes looks like...

    Thumper
     
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    And what does the Bentley manual say about the proper torque specs? If the OP is asking about bearing clearances, chances are, he will need the torque specs too, don't you agree? Pls do share the proper info :cornut:
     
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    I said it could be found in the Bentley manual....
    i would clarify my question to nitro but it seems as if i will get no response after seeing this.

    "SORRY NO LONGER POSTING IN A FORUM THAT RUNS LIKE A DICTATORSHIP!THAT WOULD BE MOTORING ALLIANCE."
     
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    Easy there, killer. You don't get to call someone wrong around here unless you're ready to back it up with what's right.
     
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    What did I miss? I know we have a "Canadian Overlord", but when did we ellect the "Dictator"? :D

    Jim
     
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    #12 Metalman, Feb 1, 2011
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    Sorry we lost someone.....
    Reading back through the posts, didn't really hit me as something to get all whacked out about that would justify bailing from the forum. I've seen (for the lack of a better description) more energetic responses without loosing members.

    Did a quick search using the forum search feature, no dictator here. If there was one, the search button would have found it. There is a Canuck overlord, but he has a bunch of flying monkeys to keep fed.

    We do have a King.... King Nathan, who makes every effort to allow his subjects freedom of speech without bringing down the royal scepter. It's a tough call sometimes, freedom of opinion, but someone has to be the ringmaster.

    But nope..... No dictator here...... Long live the King.
     
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    Hear, Hear or here, here. Which ever it is. :Thumbsup:

    Jim
     
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    Ive always thought Nathan was a pretty fair guy, were even friends on Facebook!
    He helped me correct my historical Stalin reference in my final letter to the Sewing sites moderators, now thats a dictator ship.
     
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    Glad to see you didn't bail on us Colin.:D
     
  16. Nitrominis

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    I second this!
    :Thumbsup:


    I may be wrong but sometimes a few of us get off another forum specifically on a heated thread without a time out to cool down??

    Anyway update:

    Still working on the something to be used with accuracy for engine specification for everybody. Although some of us know what the specifications or measurements should be and how to measure for them if not available I would prefer getting something for all in an established
    authority like the actual BMW/MINI Technical Service Manual. If I had an extra 275 I would just order up a set but I don't need them personally.
     

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